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January 23rd, 2013 | |  paddle suggestions #13218535 07/xviii/nineteen 04:35 PM | OP  TFF Celebrity Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 6,731 | A calendar month and one-half on my new Jackson Mayfly, looking for a new paddle. Currently have a cheaper Shoreline propel pulse, cant find the weight of information technology anywhere on line. Would like to upgrade a bit, merely not suspension the bank. Lighter is better! At this point and most probable for virtually of the time open water, on lakes.
What say you? Last edited by Smurfs; 07/eighteen/19 04:38 PM.
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"I might come up over and ride him tonight." | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Smurfs] #13218556 07/xviii/xix 04:45 PM | Joined: April 2019 Posts: i,106 Jerry713  Farthermost Angler | | Extreme Angler Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: ane,106 | I'm in a pedal yak so don't do a lot of paddling. BUT from what I've heard Werner makes the best but program on spending $400ish. I know Academy sells a straight shaft carbon fiber paddle for about $120 and a bent shaft for $150ish and they are pretty light. Only available in 230 cm tho. If I had a paddle yak I would definitely buy a great paddle. It's hard to spend that kind of money on a paddle but I can see how it would make a huge difference in half a day or more of paddling. If you haven't seen this lots of adept info hear. https://paddling.com/learn/best-kayak-paddle-2019/
Y'all become out of information technology what you put into information technology! | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Smurfs] #13218567 07/xviii/19 04:51 PM | Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: vi,731 Smurfs OP TFF Celebrity | | OP TFF Celebrity Joined: February 2014 Posts: half-dozen,731 |
Texdawg: "I'g the only guy on here that would fifty-fifty disappoint a hooker"
Derek:
"I might come over and ride him tonight." | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Smurfs] #13218726 07/eighteen/xix 07:02 PM | Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163 YakfishinTx81 Outdoorsman | | Outdoorsman Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163 | Hard to become incorrect with a Werner paddle, I started out with a Werner Tybee Hooked fiberglass paddle that was around $135, recently upgraded to a Werner Skagit CF (around $185) (carbon reinforced blades & shaft) and the difference in weight was not very noticeable but it does seem to paddle alot improve for my manner of paddling. I was likewise given a Bending branches Angler Pro paddle from a buddy who sold all his kayaking gear and its a fantastic paddle, very lite and functions not bad. Downside is it is about a $300 paddle new. Some guys on hither take spent much more on paddles as well, but there are lots of benefits from the dissimilar styles, & materials used to make the paddles that i am not experienced or smart enough to speak on. I think similar everything paddling related, really helps to get check some out in person, put your hands on some and see what feels proficient to you.  | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: YakfishinTx81] #13218758 07/eighteen/19 07:38 PM | Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 6,731 Smurfs OP TFF Celebrity | | OP TFF Celebrity Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 6,731 | Hard to get wrong with a Werner paddle, I started out with a Werner Tybee Hooked fiberglass paddle that was around $135, recently upgraded to a Werner Skagit CF (around $185) (carbon reinforced blades & shaft) and the difference in weight was not very noticeable but it does seem to paddle alot improve for my style of paddling. I was also given a Bending branches Angler Pro paddle from a buddy who sold all his kayaking gear and its a fantastic paddle, very light and functions keen. Downside is information technology is about a $300 paddle new. Some guys on here have spent much more on paddles as well, just at that place are lots of benefits from the different styles, & materials used to make the paddles that i am non experienced or smart enough to speak on. I think like everything paddling related, actually helps to become cheque some out in person, put your easily on some and see what feels good to you.
Cheers. Looking at a straight shaft, around 240cm to 250 cm my yak is 35in wide and im 5'vii"
Texdawg: "I'grand the but guy on here that would even disappoint a hooker"
Derek:
"I might come over and ride him tonight." | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Smurfs] #13218765 07/18/nineteen 07:44 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 43,998 Tallgrass05 bill maher's protege | | bill maher's protege Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 43,998 | Check out the AquaBound Manta Ray Carbon (regular or Posi-Lok), but 29.5 ounces and $190-$200. Also, get yourself a set up of YakGrips. | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Smurfs] #13218800 07/18/nineteen 08:twenty PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: iii,252 Neumie TFF Squad Angler | | TFF Squad Angler Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: iii,252 | Kayak paddles basically suspension out into 6 groupings and price ranges: 1 - Aluminum shaft with fiberglass reinforced nylon blades (under $100)
ii - Fiberglass shaft with fiberglass reinforced nylon blades ($100 - $120)
3 - Carbon Cobweb shaft with fiberglass reinforced nylon blades ($130 - $150)
4 - Carbon Fiber shaft with carbon fiber reinforced nylon blades ($180 - $200)
5 - Carbon Cobweb shaft with fiberglass blades ($250 - $300)
6 - Carbon Cobweb shaft with carbon cobweb blades ($350 - $460) I never recommend any to start with an aluminum shafted paddle. They weigh quite a flake and the blackness aluminum gets hotter to the bear on compared to a non metallic shaft paddle. I've had two aluminum shafted paddles fail on me when I outset started kayaking xvi when the plastic paddle blade separated from the metal shaft. I attribute this to the deviation in the expansion and wrinkle rates of 2 different materials. Generally speaking with each stride upwards in material (and price) you lot're going to go a lighter weight paddle with stiffer blades. Lighter paddles mean less wear and tear on your body throughout the day and many trips. The less weight you're lifting up the less energy your going to use to paddle. A paddle with stiffer blades is also important because it's more efficient at taking your free energy input (the stroke) and converting it to frontward movement. A blade which flexes is just lost free energy, which ways you're going to piece of work a little harder. At present, some people will say stiffer blades are more brittle. I disagree. I've been using the same all carbon cobweb paddle for over 12 years now. I've used it 5+ miles out in the Gulf of Mexico pushing off barnacle encrusted oil platforms, as a push button pole on the flats pushing myself across oyster beds, and running rapids of hill land rivers digging into limestone crevices. It'south non showroom fresh by any ways, but I accept no reason to doubtable it'll neglect anytime presently. Afterwards price and shaft/bract material has been considered the last thing you'll want to make up one's mind on is blade shape. High angle paddlers (majority of SOT kayak anglers use high bending) benefit from slightly shorter, but broader blade shapes. Depression angler paddlers do good from slightly longer, but narrower blade shapes. IMO, I recollect SOT kayak anglers benefit more from paddle blades designed for high angler paddlers. I think they're better at getting heavier and less efficient (when compared to sit down in touring kayaks) going on the water and assistance in maneuvering the kayak while underway or turning around. Your main players who make paddles are Accent/Cannon paddles, Bending Branches/Aqua Bound paddles, Werner, and AT/Wilderness Systems. Their paddles typically fall into the materials within a price range I mentioned earlier. Box stores such equally Academy, Bass Pro, and Field & Stream take their own paddles equally well and typically offer a like spec'd paddle for a cheaper price. The limitations with the box store brands are going to be what length of paddle they offer, considering information technology will be express. Here'southward a spreadsheet with information of paddles broken downwards by the materials used to make the paddle and then weight. Information technology'south a proficient starting point and let's you lot hands compare paddle specifications side by side for loftier angle paddles: Google Spreadsheet Determine your price you want to exist at and so I recommend getting the lightest paddle within the price range. Hope this info helps and isn't too overwhelming. Last edited past Neumie; 07/19/xix 03:34 PM.
"H2o is life's matter and matrix, female parent and medium. There is no life without water." -Albert Szent-Gyorgyi "No man ever steps in the aforementioned river twice, for it's not the aforementioned river and he'southward not the aforementioned human being." - Heraclitus | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Smurfs] #13218867 07/xviii/19 09:29 PM | Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: vi,731 Smurfs OP TFF Celebrity | | OP TFF Celebrity Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 6,731 | Thanks Neumie, very informative helpful post.
Texdawg: "I'm the only guy on here that would fifty-fifty disappoint a hooker"
Derek:
"I might come over and ride him tonight." | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Tallgrass05] #13218869 07/18/19 09:30 PM | Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: vi,731 Smurfs OP TFF Celebrity | | OP TFF Celebrity Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 6,731 | Thank you Tallgrass, that is the paddle i take been looking at.
Texdawg: "I'm the only guy on here that would fifty-fifty disappoint a hooker"
Derek:
"I might come over and ride him tonight." | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Smurfs] #13218977 07/18/19 eleven:39 PM | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,638 christian myrick  TFF Team Angler | | TFF Team Angler Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,638 | Amanda and i swing all carbon werners. We each have a ikleos and i also have a corryvreckyn. That said,,,i think the best purchase in kayak paddles is the carbon shaft/fiberglass blades,,,not fiberglass reinforced plastic, but the fiberglass blades werners. Take my corryvreckyn, its like 27 oz and $400ish, the same paddle with drinking glass blades is one oz heavier and a petty over $200. | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Neumie] #13219202 07/19/19 11:02 AM | Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,106 Jerry713 Farthermost Angler | | Extreme Angler Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: i,106 | Kayak paddles basically break out into 6 groupings and price ranges: one - Aluminum shaft with fiberglass reinforced nylon blades (under $100)
two - Fiberglass shaft with fiberglass reinforced nylon blades ($100 - $120)
3 - Carbon Cobweb shaft with fiberglass reinforced nylon blades ($130 - $150)
4 - Carbon Cobweb shaft with carbon fiber reinforced nylon blades ($180 - $200)
v - Carbon Cobweb shaft with fiberglass blades ($250 - $300)
6 - Carbon Cobweb shaft with carbon fiber blades ($350 - $460) I never recommend any to start with an aluminum shafted paddle. They weigh quite a bit and the black aluminum gets hotter to the touch compared to a non metal shaft paddle. I've had two aluminum shafted paddles fail on me when I showtime started kayaking 16 when the plastic paddle blade separated from the metal shaft. I attribute this to the deviation in the expansion and wrinkle rates of two dissimilar materials. Generally speaking with each footstep upwardly in material (and price) you're going to get a lighter weight paddle with stiffer blades. Lighter paddles mean less wear and tear on your torso throughout the day and many trips. The less weight you're lifting up the less free energy your going to use to paddle. A paddle with stiffer blades is also important considering it'south more efficient at taking your energy input (the stroke) and converting it to forward move. A blade which flexes is just lost free energy, which means you lot're going to piece of work a little harder. Now, some people volition say stiffer blades are more brittle. I disagree. I've been using the same all carbon fiber paddle for over 12 years now. I've used it 5+ miles out in the Gulf of United mexican states pushing off barnacle encrusted oil platforms, as a push pole on the flats pushing myself across oyster beds, and running rapids of hill country rivers excavation into limestone crevices. It'south non exhibit fresh by any means, just I have no reason to suspect it'll neglect anytime soon. After price and shaft/blade material has been considered the last thing you'll want to decide on is blade shape. High bending paddlers (bulk of SOT kayak anglers use loftier angle) benefit from slightly shorter, simply broader bract shapes. Low angler paddlers benefit from slightly longer, simply narrower bract shapes. IMO, I call back SOT kayak anglers do good more from paddle blades designed for high angler paddlers. I recall they're improve at getting heavier and less efficient (when compared to sit in touring kayaks) going on the water and assist in maneuvering the kayak while underway or turning around. Your main players who brand paddles are Emphasis/Cannon paddles, Bending Branches/Aqua Bound paddles, Werner, and Wilderness Systems. Their paddles typically autumn into the materials within a price range I mentioned earlier. Box stores such equally University, Bass Pro, and Field & Stream have their ain paddles as well and typically offer a like spec'd paddle for a cheaper toll. The limitations with the box shop brands are going to exist what length of paddle they offer, because it volition be express. Here's a spreadsheet with information of paddles broken down by the materials used to make the paddle and and so weight. It's a good starting indicate and let'southward you easily compare paddle specifications side by side for high angle paddles: Google Spreadsheet Determine your price you want to exist at and so I recommend getting the lightest paddle within the cost range. Hope this info helps and isn't besides overwhelming. Good stuff! 
You go out of it what yous put into it! | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Smurfs] #13219615 07/19/xix 05:21 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 43,998 Tallgrass05 pecker maher'south protege | | bill maher's protege Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 43,998 | ack.com has a number of paddles on sale for 15% off, including the AquaBound Manta Ray Carbon. | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Neumie] #13219635 07/19/xix 05:46 PM | Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,106 Jerry713 Farthermost Angler | | Extreme Angler Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: i,106 | Kayak paddles basically break out into 6 groupings and price ranges: 1 - Aluminum shaft with fiberglass reinforced nylon blades (under $100)
2 - Fiberglass shaft with fiberglass reinforced nylon blades ($100 - $120)
iii - Carbon Fiber shaft with fiberglass reinforced nylon blades ($130 - $150)
four - Carbon Fiber shaft with carbon cobweb reinforced nylon blades ($180 - $200)
five - Carbon Fiber shaft with fiberglass blades ($250 - $300)
6 - Carbon Fiber shaft with carbon fiber blades ($350 - $460) I never recommend whatever to start with an aluminum shafted paddle. They counterbalance quite a bit and the black aluminum gets hotter to the touch compared to a non metal shaft paddle. I've had two aluminum shafted paddles neglect on me when I start started kayaking 16 when the plastic paddle blade separated from the metal shaft. I attribute this to the divergence in the expansion and contraction rates of two dissimilar materials. Generally speaking with each step up in material (and price) you're going to go a lighter weight paddle with stiffer blades. Lighter paddles mean less wear and tear on your body throughout the 24-hour interval and many trips. The less weight you're lifting up the less energy your going to use to paddle. A paddle with stiffer blades is also important because information technology's more efficient at taking your energy input (the stroke) and converting information technology to forrard move. A blade which flexes is merely lost energy, which ways you're going to work a trivial harder. Now, some people will say stiffer blades are more than brittle. I disagree. I've been using the aforementioned all carbon fiber paddle for over 12 years now. I've used information technology 5+ miles out in the Gulf of United mexican states pushing off barnacle encrusted oil platforms, as a push button pole on the flats pushing myself across oyster beds, and running rapids of hill country rivers digging into limestone crevices. It's non exhibit fresh by any means, but I have no reason to suspect it'll neglect someday soon. After price and shaft/blade cloth has been considered the last thing y'all'll desire to decide on is blade shape. High bending paddlers (majority of SOT kayak anglers use high angle) benefit from slightly shorter, just broader blade shapes. Low angler paddlers benefit from slightly longer, merely narrower blade shapes. IMO, I call up SOT kayak anglers benefit more from paddle blades designed for high angler paddlers. I call up they're meliorate at getting heavier and less efficient (when compared to sit in touring kayaks) going on the water and assist in maneuvering the kayak while underway or turning around. Your main players who make paddles are Accent/Cannon paddles, Bending Branches/Aqua Bound paddles, Werner, and AT/Wilderness Systems. Their paddles typically fall into the materials within a price range I mentioned before. Box stores such as Academy, Bass Pro, and Field & Stream have their own paddles as well and typically offer a similar spec'd paddle for a cheaper price. The limitations with the box store brands are going to exist what length of paddle they offer, because it volition be limited. Hither'south a spreadsheet with information of paddles broken down by the materials used to make the paddle and so weight. It'south a adept starting point and allow's y'all easily compare paddle specifications adjacent for high angle paddles: Google Spreadsheet Make up one's mind your toll you lot want to be at and and then I recommend getting the lightest paddle within the toll range. Hope this info helps and isn't too overwhelming. OP lamentable for this. Neumie here's a line of kayaks I have non seen before. Looks to be from the oversees line. I don't have any more than info on them. https://tay-yas.com/production-category/tay-yas-fishing/kayaks/
You lot get out of it what you put into it! | | Re: paddle suggestions [Re: Jerry713] #13219659 07/nineteen/19 06:05 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: three,252 Neumie TFF Team Angler | | TFF Team Angler Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,252 | I have't seen this company, but yeah they're getting their kayaks from the same Chinese manufacturer as about 4 or 5 others on my list.
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